Awaken from my deep rest into this strange world, I started to see that Christian unity is only a realization of my past. Certainly they were divisions where I came from*, but hardly was this division as prevalent as in this distant future. As I started to explore the
different versions of Christianity, my heart ached as Christians of this time seem so
stubbornly fixed on maintaining division, all the while proclaiming unity as their ideal. In this instance, I was in the outside of what they call a Oneness pentecostal church, and seeing one attendant denying the trinity after I started to ask him about his beliefs, this conversation ensured.
ChristoPhilos: So, Dan, according to you, God is no trinity.
Dan: Certainly not, that's just tradition of man!
ChristoPhilos: I need to ask you some questions as to clarify for myself what you believe. Maybe you are right in this, as I see there is some reasons supporting these beliefs. Certainly you do not believe them without reason.
Dan: Of course not... You sure talk strangely.
ChristoPhilos: I see, please do not be bothered by the way I speak, you see, I'm just getting used to this language. But let us not sidetrack the issue at hand, but instead let us direct our focus on the Trinity. Tell me Dan, do you believe in love?
Dan: Of course I do!
ChristoPhilos: Very well. And are we humans capable of loving?
Dan: Yes, it is a gift from God.
ChristoPhilos: Certainly it is, Dan. Do you believe there are certain levels of love? What I mean with this is that, do you believe if some people are less capable of loving than others, or do we love equally?
Dan: Obviously, ChristoPhilos, some are more capable of loving than others.
ChristoPhilos: Would you call the love of those less capable less perfect than the ones more capable of loving? Or is it the opposite, the less capable more perfect?
Dan: What?! oh my... obviously, ChristoPhilos, those more capable of love are more perfect in love.
ChristoPhilos:Let us examine this then. What makes some more capable of loving than the ones less capable of loving?
Dan: I believe, as the Bible says "there's no greater love than this. That a man would give his life for a friend".
ChristoPhilos: Ahh, what you say is beautiful. So, according to this, can we say that love for others makes one more perfect at love?
Dan: Certainly.
ChristoPhilos: What about loving yourself? Is that good?
Dan: Well, I guess. Some say you can't love others without loving yourself, but I dunno if I believe that.
ChristoPhilos: Why not?
Dan: I just seen people who seem to despise themselves and love others in a way I can only hope.
ChristoPhilos: I see what you mean, I have seen that. They seem to struggle in loving themselves and yet love others even more than themselves. Are we to say that loving yourself is not important?
Dan: I believe it is, but apparently not necessary for loving others.
ChristoPhilos: So if loving others is an essential part of loving more perfectly, can we say that loving others is more important than loving yourself?
Dan: I believe it is.
ChristoPhilos: If more important better?
Dan: Certainly. Loving yourself too much can lead to selfishness, while loving others to the extreme seems more godly.
ChristoPhilos: So we agree on this, That loving others, as the Bible says, is the greatest love there is and that loving others is more important and better than loving yourself?
Dan: ChristoPhilos, I agree with everything you've just said.
ChristoPhilos: Now, did we say that Love is a gift from God?
Dan: It certainly is.
ChristoPhilos: If it is a gift from God, then we get it from God?
Dan: Of course!... hehe, sometimes you ask the most obvious questions Christophilos.
ChristoPhilos: My dear friend, you find me funny, though I see it important to clarify our discussion, and so avoid confusion as the worst of my enemies. But getting back to God and Love, if God gave us love, does that mean that He has love?
Dan: He not only has love, He is love! as the Bible says, God is love.
ChristoPhilos: So there's no one better at loving than God?
Dan: Jeez! of course not! lest we commit blasphemy.
ChristoPhilos: Agreed. Now, if we try to find perfect love, do we find it in God?
Dan: Yes, there's is no other.
ChristoPhilos: If we receive Love from God, then does it follow that the love we have and practice has to be the same Love we receive from God, and that some are better at managing that love than others, and that some use of it is less perfectly because they mix this pure love to a point that it is not pure anymore, but filled with human ideas and interests, and therefore less perfect?
Dan: Sounds good to me.
ChristoPhilos: Very well, I see we are in agreement on this, that God is the most perfect love, that we receive Love from God but sometimes misuse it, but the purest form is found in God alone.
Dan: uh-huh.
I look at him concerned, not knowing exactly what he mean.
ChristoPhilos: You agree with me?
Dan: uh-huh.
ChristoPhilos: yes?
Dan: uh-huh!
ChristoPhilos: Do you mean that you are in agreement with me?
Dan: For crying out loud buddy! What in the world is wrong with you?
ChristoPhilos: Please, it is not my purpose to make you cry, even though you look mad at the moment. I apologize if our discussion had greatly upset you, as it is evident that it has now.
He seem calmer, and then said.
Dan: Ok, sorry, what I'm mean is that, I'm in agreement with you, but I don't understand where are we going with this.
ChristoPhilos: Let us just follow where our conclusions lead us, so we can better discover our beliefs, and better express them to others. Tell me, do you believe, as I do, that God created everything?
Dan: Of course, I am a Christian you know...
ChristoPhilos: Good. So if God created everything, then everything had a beginning?
Dan: Yes.
ChristoPhilos: If everything had a beginning, then it could not be the case that everything existed eternally?
Dan: No, everything is created and it must have a beginning.
ChristoPhilos: Since it had a beginning, then there was a time there was nothing besides God?
Dan: Obviously, but God, the creator of all, is outside of time and space, and not bound by this world.
ChristoPhilos: So before the instant in eternity, better said, outside the beginning, since God is not bound by time and space when God created us, we were not there, nor the angels in heaven, which are also created?
Dan: It appears so.
ChristoPhilos: And did we agree that God is love?
Hesitantly, Dan said slowly while nodding: Yes.
ChristoPhilos: And God has been Love regardless of us?
Dan: Yes.
ChristoPhilos: And that the love we have now is from God?
Dan: Yes...
ChristoPhilos: And that the most perfect love is loving others?
Dan: uh-huh...I mean yes.
ChristoPhilos: And that we didn't exist with God eternally?
Dan: No we didn't.
ChristoPhilos: Then you are playing me, Dan, when you say that God is not a Trinity, but only One, and that the Father, Son and Holy Spirit are not different persons in one God, but simply the same.
Dan: And why is that?!
ChristoPhilos: Let me explain. You told me that Love is a gift from God. That it is better to love others than it is to love yourself, and that those who love others are more perfectly in love than those who love only themselves. That this love we receive from God is in its purest form when we do so, and that there is no other who has perfect love than God. But then you also said that we were not eternally with God, and therefore God could only love Himself, but this is impossible, since we agree that Love of oneself is imperfect. But if God is a trinity, then we could see that the Father and Son and Holy Spirit are different persons in One God. We can also say that the Holy Spirit is the love of the Father and the Son, and this sharing of Love is what makes their love perfect. His perfect love does not depend on us or in our creation, since God is self-sufficient, and He can love perfectly without us. God cannot need our help in making His love perfect. We cannot add to God's perfection. It seems more reasonable to me that God is a Trinity, and the love relationship between the Father, Son and Holy Spirit, better explain the love we receive from Him, which, for it to be perfect, must be shared with others.
As I finish saying this, Dan is quiet for a few seconds, he starts to get a little annoyed and said: Whatever!, you just don't understand how it works and simply want to win me as a Trinitarian!
ChristoPhilos: Perhaps you can help me understand?
Dan: I have stuff to do instead of wasting my time with you, bye.
And then he left.
Jgrdaniel.
*ChristoPhilos is an obscure (not popularly known) Christian philosopher of the 4th Century who was mysteriously awakened by God in order to experience life in the present time. He is a lover of Plato and the Socratic dialogues, and uses his method in discussing topics of his interest.